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Posted 2025-10-26 4:11 PM (#33169)
Subject: How about some stats...



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Chris and I were looking at some stats and thought you might be interested in them too. The new site will have a permanent stats page that will include these -- amongst a host of other stats -- all tricked-out in pie charts and graphs and images, etc. so everyone can see where we're at and how much our community is growing.

 

BOOKS
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Total: 43,509

  • SF: 21,579
  • Fantasy: 19,223
  • Horror: 5,293

Book Awards: 29
Book Lists: 51


AUTHORS
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Total: 8,208

  • Male: 4,907
  • Female: 3,219
  • Non-binary: 78

PUBLISHERS
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Total: 1,716


MEMBERS
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Total: 7,696

Member Reads: 478,135

  • Male Authored: 373,483
  • Female Authored: 121,502
  • Non-binary Authored: 1,690

Member Reads by Book Type:

  • Novel: 413,853
  • Collection: 18,662
  • Novella: 15,295
  • Omnibus: 8,024
  • Short Story: 7,702
  • Novelette: 5,866
  • Anthology: 4,136
  • Graphic Novel: 3,089
  • Non-Fiction: 987
  • Light Novel: 280
  • Miscellaneous: 194
  • Poem: 39
  • Play Script: 8

Reviews: 13,799

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Engelbrecht
Posted 2025-10-30 1:48 AM (#33177 - in reply to #33169)
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Interesting!

If possible, it would be neat to see the top 10 read for each type (except for novels). Could Le Guin's The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas be the #1 Short Story?

It looks like there may be a few issues with the numbers in the Book Types breakdown:
  • Novels @ 413, 853 is high - this is almost ten times the total number of books (43,509).
  • Even excluding Novels, the total of the remaining 12 types is 64,282 - again greater than the total number of books.
  • Omnibus @ 8,024 seems high - this would mean that more than one sixth of all book records are omnibuses. Another way of looking at Omnibuses: most Omnibuses contain two or more Novels/Collections, so, at a minimum, there are 8,024 x 3 = 24,072, leaving less than 20k for Novels/Collections that have not been included in an Omnibus, as well as all the short fiction, Anthologies, Non-Fiction, Light Novels, etc. I'd guess the total to be no more than 500 or so.
  • The same issue for Novellas/Short Stories/Novelettes. The total of these three is 28,863, which would represent 66% of all book records, which seems high.
  • Graphic Novel @ 3,089 also seems high - we're very picky on Graphic Novels - they almost never get in unless they are award nominated or are on a list. I'd guess the total here to be no greater than 100-200.
  • Light Novel @ 280 is low. Skimming the Original Japanese publication page, there looks to be around 1,500 Light Novels.
Looking forward to seeing the stat page!
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lisagarrity
Posted 2025-10-30 10:56 AM (#33178 - in reply to #33169)
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Will children's and young adult books be searchable by tag? Also, if our total books are 43,509 where are the other 360,000 books coming from? I really like the idea of a permanent stats page. Will there be short story awards, anthology and short story collection award? I am sooo looking forward to the next generation of WWE.
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Posted 2025-10-30 11:45 AM (#33179 - in reply to #33177)
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Engelbrecht - 2025-10-30 1:48 AM Interesting!
If possible, it would be neat to see the top 10 read for each type (except for novels). Could Le Guin's The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas be the #1 Short Story?

That's a great idea. I could add that to the stats page or maybe it makes more sense to create a "top 10's" page in the books section under WWEnd Lists for those. Would probably get more traffic there. What do you think?

It looks like there may be a few issues with the numbers in the Book Types breakdown:....

Looking forward to seeing the stat page!

OK, this is where I screwed up on my labeling and lead you astray. That section was supposed to be "Member Reads by Book Type". I've corrected it above. That should take care of all the math errors except for the author genders. Those numbers are not going to add up because of multi-authored books.

Thanks for the reply and pointing out the errors. 

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Administrator
Posted 2025-10-30 12:12 PM (#33180 - in reply to #33178)
Subject: Re: How about some stats...



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lisagarrity - 2025-10-30 10:56 AM Will children's and young adult books be searchable by tag? Also, if our total books are 43,509 where are the other 360,000 books coming from? I really like the idea of a permanent stats page. Will there be short story awards, anthology and short story collection award? I am sooo looking forward to the next generation of WWE.

I think sorting by YA and children's books is a much needed update. We don't have that in the first round of updates but it should follow after the initial launch. I'd really like to bump up both of those categories to expand our coverage for the younger generations of readers. We skew rather sharply to an older crowd and we need to bring along some younger folks into the community. Those categories would be helpful to the older gen who likely buy gooks for family as well.

Yes, we will most definitely be covering other categories in the awards and lists. Our Ubers have been adding lots of shorts, novellas and anthos etc. to the site -- we just have to get the categories set up. Our Google sheet for new awards and award categories has over 30 of them in the queue. It's our plan to introduce a couple new cats or even new awards each month.

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Engelbrecht
Posted 2025-11-02 4:17 AM (#33193 - in reply to #33169)
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Ah - that really explains the stats.

It's interesting that of the ~1,500 Light Novels, there have only been 280 reads. Even Non-Fiction has almost four times as many reads. We just haven't tapped into the Light Novels audience somehow.

Administrator - 2025-10-30  9:45 AM 
That's a great idea. I could add that to the stats page or maybe it makes more sense to create a "top 10's" page in the books section under WWEnd Lists for those. Would probably get more traffic there. What do you think?

I might put it in both places! And I guess I'd do top 10 novels after all, even though we do have the big most read list. That way, we'd have all the categories in one place - no need to try to search out most read novels elsewhere. Would the ""top 10's" page in the books section under WWEnd Lists" be considered an additional "list"? If so, how would this work when viewing "My List Stats" - omit the list, use an aggregated total from all category types, show a separate line item for each category type, or some other solution?

And now that I think about it, how would this be displayed on the stats page - The total number of reads for all of the top 10 in each category? And have the "list" version show each of the 10 top ten items along with the reads for each item? Each approach is useful, and the differences mean that we're not just posting the same thing in two different places.  

Administrator - 2025-10-30 10:12 AM
I think sorting by YA and children's books is a much needed update.

Great! We'll have to think through how best to implement this. There's also a "middle-grade" category that might be included. In Goodreads, books like The Phantom Tollbooth  can sometimes be tagged with all three categories, although "children's" is the clear winner. Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone  is mostly tagged as YA, while Kate Milford's Greenglass House is mostly tagged as middle-grade.

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